Friday, September 15, 2006

1000NL has been going great. I just played my 60,000th hand at that level, and have done better than I could possibly have hoped. Still, I have no plans to move up to 2000NL until I've played at least 100,000 hands.

1000NL is wacky enough as it is. Tonight was extra-wacky. Here are two examples.

Hand #1:

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $2133.70
UTG+1: $950
CO: $1706.64
Button: $1747
SB: $1338.31
Hero: $2785.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Qc 8c
UTG raises to $20, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 8s 3h 4d ($45, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $50, Hero calls.

Turn: 7s ($145, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $420.74, Hero calls.

River: 5d ($986.48, 2 players)
Hero bets $300, UTG calls.

Final pot: $1586.48
Hero balance 3577.94 bet 790.74 collected 1583.48 net 792.74 Qc 8c
UTG balance 1342.96 lost 790.74 Tc 9d

Hand #2:

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1780.25
UTG+1: $890
CO: $1391.12
Button: $1416
SB: $1275.31
Hero: $3875.42

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with As Ks
UTG raises to $20, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button raises to $80, SB folds, Hero raises to $295, UTG calls, 2 folds.

Flop: Ts 7h Th ($695, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG is all-in $1495.25, Hero calls.

Turn: Kd ($3685.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $3685.5)

River: 6h ($3685.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $3685.5)

Final pot: $3685.5
Hero balance 5757.67 bet 1780.25 collected 3662.50 net 1882.25 As Ks
UTG balance 0 lost 1780.25 7d Ac

I didn't even think I had to get lucky on that last one...


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your balls sure have grown since your limit days. Congratulations.

2:57 AM  
Blogger eric said...

C'mon, why'd you post that anonymously? I laughed.

5:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey, I'm hoping you can explain your move on the flop. This guy had raised preflop, then gone all-in on the flop of tens and a seven. How can you call that with only AsKs? I'm trying to play more aggresively myself, but I'm not sure where to start. I'm only a micro-limits player, but it seems like that would definitely not work at those limits. --thomas

8:40 AM  
Blogger eric said...

I don't usually call an AI for 3X the pot with A-high. However, this opponent was...special. As you can tell by the fact that he called 290PF with A7o. I had gotten him on a couple hands and he was tilting hardcore.

So his hand range there was any two. I knew if I bet big on that flop, he'd call if he had any pair, and he'd lay down anything else, although perhaps just raise for the heck of it, which would put even more pressure on me. Not exactly optimal. However, I also knew if I checked, he'd bet his any two, regardless of having a pair or not.

Moving all-in convinced me even more. That's just how he was playing--if he had junk and wanted to push people off a hand, he'd way overbet the pot. So I wanted to fold, but every indication was that I had the best hand. So I called.

As it turns out he had hit a pair, but really he just as easily could have had A2-A6 or A8-AQ, or, for that matter, J5s or something.

Oh, and thomas, playing like I did that hand is not considered "aggressive," it's considered being a "calling station." Done effectively (along with normal aggression) you can win a lot from overaggressive donkeys. Done ineffectively, and well, you call off your entire stack drawing near-dead which is *the* cardinal sin in NL play.

3:42 PM  
Anonymous the $25 challenge said...

all in in a cash game is death. its a marathon, not a sprint

8:27 AM  
Anonymous Bob Jones said...

Eric, if you had to generalize, how would you characterize the
400/600/1K NL games? What's the biggest similarities/differences?

11:02 AM  
Blogger eric said...

400NL and 600NL are very similar. 600NL is certainly tougher, but not by an overwhelming amount. People make somewhat fewer bad calls, are somewhat more aggressive, etc, etc.

600NL to 1kNL was a big jump, I think. When I went 400 to 600, my attitude was essentially, "guys are a little tougher I guess, but this is pretty similar." Going 600 to 1k I had to totally reevaluate my game. People's most common mistake stops being calling too much (although there are definitely still some of those guys around) and becomes betting too much. You really have to be able to both get away from TPTK or two pair but also be willing to go AI with TPTK/TPGK, depending on situations.

I've played 65K hands or so and I still make idiot mistakes on a daily basis. So even though I've done well (been running well is a lot of it), I'm going to hang around for at least 100K hands. Because as tough as the transition from 600 to 1k was, I've heard going from 1k to 2k can be even tougher.

2:56 PM  
Anonymous PokerBarney said...

Hand #1 I don't like. You check call the flop and turn with top pair? Looks a bit passive to me - I'd raise the flop to make sure I'm ahead, and to stop him from overtaking for free on a later street.

Hand #2 is quite a gutsy call on the flop: 1.46-1 on the call, but 2.8-1 to win. I've just read your explanation though, and it makes a lot of sense with a good read on an opponent.

12:22 PM  

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