Friday, August 18, 2006

All right, it seems to be getting a lot of flak, so let me go on the record as actually liking this new Party promotion. I can't speak for low-volume and/or lower-stakes players, but for players like me who play a lot of hands at decent-sized stakes all on Party anyways, it's great.

For people who don't know, Party's new promotion is that for the next two months, any Party points you earn can be traded in for cash at a max rate of 2.5 cents/point.

But they take your points which you could have used to get stuff! And it only amounts to a 25-30X bonus! And they discontinued bonus points! It's horrible!

They do take your points, and it does amount to a 25-30X bonus, and they did discontinue bonus points. But it isn't horrible. In fact, I think it's great. At least, like I said, for me. Here's why.

First, and foremost, they bumped me up to Gold, which means I earn points at a 33% greater clip than I did before. They also increased the points given at the stakes I play from 12 to 15 per 20 raked hands, which is a 25% increase. This adds up to about a 67% increase in the number of points I earn, which more than mitigates the loss in bonus points which was only a few thousand per month anyways (a couple deposits, and the occasional time I play very late night/early morning). So I still earn 25-50% more points than I would have.

I expect to play enough hands to earn 50K-70K points over the next two months. Let's assume I only achieve the very bottom end of that range, so 50,000. That means I get $1250 at the end of the promotion but give up those 50,000 points.

Assume they didn't offer the promotion and they kept things as they were. They might have offered two reload bonuses at $100 each, and I would have kept the points. So I would have gotten $200 plus 50,000 points worth of stuff, which is, for example, a 2GB iPod nano, valued at about $200. Total: $400. So, net gain over the status quo is $850.

Now, let's compare this promotion to previous VIP promotions from earlier this year. Well, the first one (which may have been December, can't really remember) was really a crazy-great promotion. IIRC, I got $930 for about 10,000 points, which I got to keep. So yeah, this promotion might not be as good as that one, but that one was out of this world and will never happen again.

Then there was the weekly one where I got $670 for about 16,000 points for each of four weeks, but had to give the points up. Now $670 for 16,000 points is better than $1250 for 50,000 points (multiply by just 3 and that's $2010 for 48,000 points), but that promotion came with two caveats: 1) I had to earn all those 16,000 points in a given week, and 2) I couldn't earn more than $670 in a week--once I hit it, that's it and then the counter would start over the next week, where I'd get nothing for anything below about 8000 points. Now, at that time (February), I played limit which gave out a lot more points than NL, so earning 16,000 points in a week was annoying but not outrageous. But for me now, earning 16,000 points in a week would be quite an aberration.

Similarly, the acceller-8-or (or whatever the hell it was called) was one which had a pretty nice high-end possible bonus, but again you were forced to play a lot of hands every single week for 8 straight weeks in order to pass the return of this current promotion.

This current promotion has no forced hands every single week. It's open-ended (at least within it's own imposed limits, if that makes sense). I can miss a few days and not have screwed my chances at any high paydays. I get linear rather than exponential returns for my play, which might not sound good to all those mathematicians out there, but think of it as comparing two equations where the linear equation is 10t and the exponential equation is 2^t and while the maximum value of t might be 6 or 7, the expected value of t is about 5, and is more likely to be below 5 than above.

So for the heavy, but not back-breaking, loads of hands I'll be playing, this promotion is superior to the last two VIP offers because I'm given freedom of when I get to play my hands, as well as no cap on total possible bonus earned beyond simply time--all for what will probably amount to about the same or more total bonus money.

My own personal bottom-line: I get an extra $850 (up to perhaps an extra $1350 if I manage 70K points) for doing what I was going to do anyways. I'm happy.


Blogger Duck said...

so you got up to playing 40-80 and 80-160 live regularly, and you play the 400, 600, 1000...(blinds being, 2-4, 3-6, and 5-10?)What stakes do you play live when you play no limit? 2-5, 5-10?

6:53 AM  
Blogger eric said...

Yeah, the limit-to-NL conversion (or vice-versa) is kind of tricky. I'd say a NL game is about as big as a limit game perhaps 6-8 times as big. So when I play 5/10NL, it's about as "big" as 30/60 or 40/80 limit. Although, the earn rate is probably a little bigger in NL.

But yeah, I now play 80% 1000NL and 20% 600NL online, with 400NL now firmly in the rear-view mirror. When I play live it's actually usually 2/5NL simply because most of the time I play live nowadays is for more social reasons, just hanging out with friends or whatever. However, if I were playing more seriously, it would be 5/10 or 10/20 (which I just tried for the first time this weekend, btw--short session, small win, nothing worth remarking on).

10:24 PM  
Blogger estonb said...

Eric, why do you never reload on our 5-10 tables?

And why'd you float me with that ten high or whatever, then not push me off on the turn and river...misclick?

4:17 AM  
Blogger eric said...

yeah misclick.

I don't typically reload. Dunno why.

5:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For what it's worth, I've noticed I have better results when I don't reload (unless I get stacked in something like a KK vs AA confrontation).

The reasons for this are probably mostly psychological and specific to myself, but perhaps some can be thought of as what Skalansky and Miller describe the 'advantages of a short stack' coming into play.

5:17 AM  
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8:55 AM  

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